Kiwi 3
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Ashford Kiwi 3: Owner Reviews and Who It Suits

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The short answer: is the Kiwi 3 right for you?

The Kiwi 3 suits a new spinner who wants to start on medium and thicker yarns, treadle with both feet, and fold the wheel away afterward. Three bobbins, a built-in lazy kate and Ashford’s Learn to Spin booklet come with it, so you have what you need to spin and ply your first yarn.

It comes as a kit. If you’d rather spin the day it arrives, look at the Joy 2 double treadle. If fine, lace-weight yarn is your main goal, the Joy 2 or the Kromski Sonata gives you more room.

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What it means for your spinning

The yarn you can make. Ashford gives three ratios: 5.5, 7.5 and 9.5 to 1, meaning the flyer turns that many times for each turn of the wheel. A fine yarn needs more twist than a thick one, as Ashford’s booklet says, so this range leans toward medium and thicker yarn. It’s the shortest reach of the three wheels below.

Two feet, not one. Both treadles fold. For Vivian, reviewing on Ribbonrose, “the double treadle is fantastic”.

Threading up. The orifice is 10 mm, the same as the other two wheels here, and you thread it with the wooden hook provided. Kathie, on Ribbonrose, counts the small orifice and hook threading as the downside, so check the size against the yarn you have in mind.

Plying. Three sliding-hook bobbins hold 130 g (4.6 oz) each, and the lazy kate is built in. Rahera, on Ribbonrose, found the right-hand thread could catch in the crank when plying, and bought a separate kate.

Moving it and putting it away. At 5.5 kg (12.1 lb), it’s a little heavier than the Joy 2 or the Sonata. Ashford’s instructions show the feet unlocking and the treadles folding, and you can carry it by the main upright, the wheel or the maiden bar. Susan, on Ribbonrose, found it slid on the floor while she spun, and added rubber to the bottom slats.

Putting it together. Ashford’s assembly instructions are online if you’d like to read them first. Michelle Mcneil, on The Good Yarn, praises the “good clear instructions”. Rahera needed help with burrs on a hub pin.

Who it suits

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The Kiwi 3 beside two others

Wheel Suits Weight Orifice Ratios Drive Treadles
Ashford Kiwi 3 Medium wool, first wheel 5.5 kg 10 mm 5.5, 7.5, 9.5 Single 2, folding
Ashford Joy 2 double treadle Ready to spin, wider ratio range 5.1 kg 10 mm 6, 8, 11, 14 Single 2, folding
Kromski Sonata Encore Widest ratio range, choice of drive 5 kg 10 mm 5.5 & 9.5:1, 10.5 & 15:1; additional 4.5 & 6.5:1, 20 & 22:1 Single or double 2

Ashford’s Kiwi 3 and Joy 2 pages; Kromski’s Sonata page, which now shows the Encore.

Owner reviews

Ribbonrose, a New Zealand shop, has six reviews averaging 4.75 out of 5, and The Good Yarn in Australia has two more. They’re worth reading in the owners’ own words, especially if you’re coming from a single-treadle wheel.

Kiwi 3 details

Ashford’s Kiwi 3 page.

Kiwi 3
Weight 5.5 kg (12.1 lb)
Wheel diameter 45 cm (17.7 in)
Orifice 10 mm (0.39 in)
Orifice height 69 cm (27.2 in)
Ratios 5.5, 7.5, 9.5
Drive and tension Single drive, Scotch tension
Treadles 2, folding
Bobbins 3 sliding-hook flyer bobbins
Bobbin capacity 130 g (4.6 oz)
Also in the box Built-in lazy kate, Learn to Spin booklet, wooden threading hook
Assembly Kit
Materials Beech hardwood, veneered MDF
Finish Factory lacquered, or natural unfinished
Product code KSW3 / KSW3L

FAQ

Is the Ashford Kiwi 3 worth it?

If you’re starting on medium and thicker yarns, it comes with what you need: two folding treadles, three bobbins, a lazy kate and Ashford’s booklet. It’s a kit, and finer yarn is better served by the Joy 2 or the Sonata.

What ratios does the Ashford Kiwi 3 have?

Three: 5.5, 7.5 and 9.5. The Joy 2 has 6, 8, 11 and 14. The Kromski Sonata Encore has 5.5 and 9.5:1 and 10.5 and 15:1, plus additional ratios of 4.5 and 6.5:1 and 20 and 22:1.

Does the Kiwi 3 come assembled?

No, it comes as a kit, with the Learn to Spin booklet and a wooden threading hook. You can read the assembly instructions online first.

How many treadles does the Kiwi 3 have?

Two, and both fold.

What is the orifice size on the Kiwi 3?

10 mm (0.39 in). Kathie, on Ribbonrose, counts the small orifice and hook threading as the downside, so check the size against the yarn you plan to spin.

How much does the Ashford Kiwi 3 cost?

See today’s price at Woolery or ask your local dealer.

Where it sits

Scatter plot of 9 spinning wheels: weight across, top ratio up. Ashford Kiwi 3 is at 5.5 kg and 9.5:1.51015202468Top ratio: flyer turns per wheel turnWeight, kgCountry Spinner 2: 8 kg, 5 :1Joy 2 Double Treadle: 5.1 kg, 14 :1Joy 2 Single Treadle: 5 kg, 14 :1Traditional Single Drive: 8 kg, 17 :1Traveller 3: 5.8 kg, 14 :1Fantasia Spinning Wheel: 5.7 kg, 8 :1Prelude Spinning Wheel: 4 kg, 13 :1S95 Victoria: 3.6 kg, 13 :1Kiwi 3: 5.5 kg, 9.5 :1Kiwi 3S95 VictoriaScatter plot of 9 spinning wheels: weight across, top ratio up. Ashford Kiwi 3 is at 5.5 kg and 9.5:1.5101520345678Top ratio: flyer turns per wheel turnWeight, kgCountry Spinner 2: 8 kg, 5 :1Joy 2 Double Treadle: 5.1 kg, 14 :1Joy 2 Single Treadle: 5 kg, 14 :1Traditional Single Drive: 8 kg, 17 :1Traveller 3: 5.8 kg, 14 :1Fantasia Spinning Wheel: 5.7 kg, 8 :1Prelude Spinning Wheel: 4 kg, 13 :1S95 Victoria: 3.6 kg, 13 :1Kiwi 3: 5.5 kg, 9.5 :1Kiwi 3S95 Victoria

This one Other spinning wheels

Each dot is a spinning wheel whose maker lists both weight and top ratio. Ashford Kiwi 3 sits at 5.5 kg and 9.5:1. Where a dot sits shows size and build, not how good a spinning wheel is.

See the numbers behind the chart
Spinning wheelWeight, kgTop ratio: flyer turns per wheel turn
S95 Victoria3.613
Prelude Spinning Wheel413
Joy 2 Single Treadle514
Joy 2 Double Treadle5.114
Kiwi 3 (this one)5.59.5
Fantasia Spinning Wheel5.78
Traveller 35.814
Country Spinner 285
Traditional Single Drive817

Your path

These are stages of what you might want to make, not a ranking. Each step is a different kind of project, and every one is a good place to be.

  1. Step 1

    Spinning away from home

    Yarn at a class, a guild meeting or a friend’s house, with a wheel that folds.

    This one. Listed as folding.

  2. Step 2

    Spinning at home

    Everyday yarn on a wheel that stays set up, with a standard orifice and bobbins.

  3. Step 3

    Big batches and thick yarn

    Thick and art yarns, and large amounts at a time.

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